{"id":580940,"date":"2020-06-09T17:45:57","date_gmt":"2020-06-09T15:45:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.tomshardware.fr\/?p=580940"},"modified":"2023-06-22T17:32:20","modified_gmt":"2023-06-22T15:32:20","slug":"certaines-cartes-meres-x570-tuent-les-processeurs-ryzen-3000-a-petit-feu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.tomshardware.fr\/certaines-cartes-meres-x570-tuent-les-processeurs-ryzen-3000-a-petit-feu\/","title":{"rendered":"Certaines cartes m\u00e8res X570 tuent les processeurs Ryzen 3000 \u00e0 petit feu"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Mise \u00e0 jour du 12\/06<\/strong> : AMD nous a contact\u00e9s et fait part de sa position officielle sur le sujet :
“Nous sommes au courant des rapports affirmant que certaines cartes m\u00e8res pourraient sous-estimer certaines donn\u00e9es t\u00e9l\u00e9m\u00e9triques li\u00e9es \u00e0 la puissance, au point de modifier les performances et\/ou le comportement des processeurs AMD Ryzen dans certaines conditions. Nous examinons actuellement l’exactitude de ces rapports.<\/em>
Enfin<\/em>, nous voulons \u00eatre clairs avec nos clients : les processeurs AMD Ryzen contiennent un large \u00e9ventail de protections internes qui fonctionnent ind\u00e9pendamment des sources de donn\u00e9es externes. Ces protections renforcent la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 et la fiabilit\u00e9 du processeur durant les op\u00e9rations. Sur la base de notre \u00e9valuation initiale, nous ne pensons pas que la modification de la t\u00e9l\u00e9m\u00e9trie externe de la mani\u00e8re d\u00e9crite dans ces articles aurait un impact significatif sur la long\u00e9vit\u00e9 ou la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 du processeur de l’utilisateur.”<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Article du 9 juin<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Des fabricants de cartes m\u00e8res X570<\/a> s\u2019accordent quelques libert\u00e9s qui pourraient nuire \u00e0 la dur\u00e9e de vie des processeurs Ryzen install\u00e9s sur leurs mod\u00e8les. En effet, ils falsifieraient volontairement les mesures de puissance du processeur afin d\u2019augmenter ses performances. Une pratique courante, similaire \u00e0 l\u2019overclocking, sauf que dans le cas pr\u00e9sent, dissimul\u00e9e et pratiqu\u00e9e sans le consentement des utilisateurs ni d\u2019AMD.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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C\u2019est la d\u00e9couverte qu\u2019a fait un certain The Stilt, rapport\u00e9e sur HWinfo. En pratique, il est courant que les fabricants de cartes m\u00e8res ajustent les limites de puissance du processeur pour rendre leurs mod\u00e8les plus rapides que ceux des concurrents. Intel encourage m\u00eame cette pratique et l\u2019encadre afin qu\u2019elle n\u2019alt\u00e8re pas la p\u00e9rennit\u00e9 de la puce. Or, ce n\u2019est pas le cas d\u2019AMD. Selon The Stilt, la m\u00e9thode utilis\u00e9e par certains vendeurs de cartes m\u00e8res pour augmenter les performances consiste \u00e0 falsifier d\u00e9lib\u00e9r\u00e9ment la consommation d’\u00e9nergie du processeur afin qu\u2019il puisse outrepasser ses limites. Ainsi, la puce est certes plus performante, mais elle consomme plus d’\u00e9nergie et g\u00e9n\u00e8re plus de chaleur, ce qui peut r\u00e9duire sa dur\u00e9e de vie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

ASRock enregistre 12 cartes m\u00e8res en A520 aupr\u00e8s de l\u2019EEC<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Deux grandes marques incrimin\u00e9es<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Vous pouvez lire la publication de The Stilt sur le site HWinfo, mais en voici un r\u00e9sum\u00e9 :<\/p>\n\n\n\n

“Certains fabricants de cartes m\u00e8res d\u00e9clarent intentionnellement une valeur de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence sp\u00e9cifique incorrecte (trop petite) dans l’AGESA. Comme les processeurs AM4 Ryzen d\u00e9pendent de la t\u00e9l\u00e9m\u00e9trie provenant du VRM de la carte m\u00e8re pour d\u00e9terminer leur consommation \u00e9lectrique, le fait de d\u00e9clarer une valeur de r\u00e9f\u00e9rence incorrecte affectera la consommation \u00e9lectrique du processeur.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Par exemple, si le fabricant de la carte m\u00e8re rapporte 50 % de la valeur correcte, le CPU pense qu’il consomme la moiti\u00e9 de la puissance qu’il consomme r\u00e9ellement. Ainsi, il s\u2019autorise \u00e0 consommer deux fois plus que pr\u00e9vu. Cela permet au processeur d’atteindre une puissance plus \u00e9lev\u00e9e en raison des limites de puissance effectivement lev\u00e9es ; cependant, cela fait \u00e9galement chauffer le CPU et peut avoir un effet n\u00e9gatif sur sa dur\u00e9e de vie, de la m\u00eame mani\u00e8re que l’overclocking. La diff\u00e9rence par rapport \u00e0 l’overclocking ou \u00e0 l’utilisation du PBO est que dans le cas pr\u00e9sent, cette action est r\u00e9alis\u00e9e de mani\u00e8re totalement clandestine”.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

L\u2019individu pr\u00e9cise aussi que “m\u00eame si cette pratique est rendue possible par un \u00e9l\u00e9ment qu’AMD a inclus dans la sp\u00e9cification, l’entreprise ne tol\u00e8re pas et n’encourage pas son utilisation. Au contraire, AMD fait pression sur les fabricants de cartes m\u00e8res qui ont mis en place cette pratique”<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Un outil pour d\u00e9tecter la fraude<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

HWinfo a lanc\u00e9 un outil permettant aux utilisateur de tester le degr\u00e9 d\u2019honn\u00eatet\u00e9 de leur carte m\u00e8re. La justification est la suivante : “\u00c9tant donn\u00e9 qu’au moins deux des plus grands fabricants de cartes m\u00e8res utilisent toujours ce proc\u00e9d\u00e9 afin d’obtenir un avantage sur leurs concurrents, malgr\u00e9 les demandes, nous avons pens\u00e9 qu’il serait juste de permettre aux consommateurs de voir si leur carte se livre \u00e0 quelque chose qu\u2019elle n\u2019est pas cens\u00e9e faire”<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hwinfo a ajout\u00e9 ainsi une mesure baptis\u00e9e “CPU Power Reporting Deviation” qui d\u00e9termine si la carte m\u00e8re communique des valeurs correctes au processeur Ryzen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nos confr\u00e8res de Tom\u2019s Harware US<\/a> m\u00e8nent l\u2019enqu\u00eate aupr\u00e8s d\u2019AMD et des marques pour conna\u00eetre l\u2019identit\u00e9 de ces “deux fabricants”<\/em> r\u00e9calcitrants. Nous vous tiendrons inform\u00e9s d\u00e8s que possible.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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